Promotion issue

RE: Promotion issue

AngelaIp — Mon, 14 Mar 2022 17:51:05 GMT

Not sure. Normally you never use the "Creator" as voting role. Are you sure you haven´t mixed it up with the "Owner" (owned_by_id)?

The Creator is really the person who creates something, it cannot be changed later. So it´s common to use the Owner.

If you accidentally used the Owner identity in your item, you could try to add a second path to the lifecycle in parallel to the Creator-path

RE: Promotion issue

Ashok.Yadav — Thu, 10 Mar 2022 05:36:29 GMT

Thank you for you reply.

I found root cause of the problem. it's show no promotion available for some in case of transaction of lifecycle where role defined create . for example it fail between Create and review state .

Can you suggest solution for Creator identity as role in transaction?

Regards

Ashok Kumar Yadav

RE: Promotion issue

AngelaIp — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 08:14:39 GMT

Mmh. In this case check which link the user uses to access Innovator. Especially when your users enters Innovator via a bookmark. Does the link contain the expression "X-salt"? This would indicate your users works on a outdated cache version which can lead to all kind of exotic errors.

RE: Promotion issue

Ashok.Yadav — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 04:19:46 GMT

But i am not able understand the promotion is working when restart IIS server for user that user not able promote before restart IIS server.

RE: Promotion issue

AngelaIp — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 13:29:34 GMT

Item. You right now probably display the "state", but this one is just a kind of "label" for the "current_state". If current_state shows different values for the same "state" this would be a reason for your not working promotions.

RE: Promotion issue

Ashok.Yadav — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 13:27:46 GMT

What Form ?

Form of Item or LifeCycle

RE: Promotion issue

AngelaIp — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 13:13:47 GMT

Maybe even removed and then inserted the same state?

Ans: Yes

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Really yes?

Does your bug only appear on existing items or also on new ones? If new ones are no problem, your modifications may have crashed the existing ones.

Add the field "current_state" to your Form. It contains the id of the state. Check if there are different ids for the "same" state.

RE: Promotion issue

Ashok.Yadav — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 12:47:46 GMT

Thank for reply

Do you have really assigned this LifeCycle to your item? Do you use alternative LifeCycles?

Ans : Yes I have assigned this LifeCycle to my item, I did not use alternative LifeCycles?

Do you have changed the Lifecycle a couple of times? Maybe even removed and then inserted the same state?

Ans: Yes

Have you already tried the "Resett LifeCycle" / "Set Default LifeCycle" action? These two are typically used to repair a corrupted lifecycle on already existing items.

Ans Yes

Does your users have update permission for the item?

Ans: Yes

Also check in your map if the identities really fit the shown pathes. Inside the editor the labels sometimes jump around and what you see might be wrong.

Ans: Yes My Map identities really fit the shown pathes

RE: Promotion issue

AngelaIp — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 12:31:50 GMT

Do you have really assigned this LifeCycle to your item? Do you use alternative LifeCycles?

Do you have changed the Lifecycle a couple of times? Maybe even removed and then inserted the same state?

Have you already tried the "Resett LifeCycle" / "Set Default LifeCycle" action? These two are typically used to repair a corrupted lifecycle on already existing items.

Does your users have update permission for the item?

Also check in your map if the identities really fit the shown pathes. Inside the editor the labels sometimes jump around and what you see might be wrong.

RE: Promotion issue

Ashok.Yadav — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 12:20:08 GMT

Thank for Reply

1. I see that you use Identity "Creator" and "Component Engineer". Are your users assigned to these Identities?

Ans :Yes

2. Does your permission allow users to "update" the item?

Ans :Yes

3. Are all of your items affected? Or does promotion just fail for a few specific ones?

Ans : It is fail for Manufacture Parts only

I asked for SQL, cause the state you see is sometimes not the state you really have. And this would lead exactly into the behavior you describe.

Ans : it is same as I see.

This can happen when you change 'state' in SQL database manually to "repair" something. Or if you have used some of the admin functions.

Ans : I did not change Manually in SQL

4. Do you have used "Set default lifecycle" or "Reset permission" for some of your items? When you use the history, you could see it there.

Ans Yes

Can you please suggest me Solution?

Regards

Ashok Kumar Yadav

RE: Promotion issue

AngelaIp — Mon, 06 Dec 2021 15:55:03 GMT

It´s strange that promotion work after restarting the server. LifeCyle promotion is a very reliable feature in Innovator once it´s set up correctly.

1. I see that you use Identity "Creator" and "Component Engineer". Are your users assigned to these Identities?

2. Does your permission allow users to "update" the item?

3. Are all of your items affected? Or does promotion just fail for a few specific ones?

I asked for SQL, cause the state you see is sometimes not the state you really have. And this would lead exactly into the behavior you describe.

This can happen when you change 'state' in SQL database manually to "repair" something. Or if you have used some of the admin functions.

4. Do you have used "Set default lifecycle" or "Reset permission" for some of your items? When you use the history, you could see it there.

RE: Promotion issue

Ashok.Yadav — Thu, 02 Dec 2021 05:07:54 GMT

Thank for reply Angelalp,

Aras innovator version is 12 and service pack 9

Right now test at main server at same machine. No i do not manipulated the SQL db manually.

RE: Promotion issue

AngelaIp — Mon, 22 Nov 2021 22:08:32 GMT

First at all: Restyle it so it becomes a pentagram. That doesn´t help to solve the problem - but it looks cool and somehow fits your question.

Second: Which Innovator version do you use?

Third: Test server or main server? Have you manipulated the SQL db manually? (like editing the state property?)