New free version ...

Aras released Innovator 25 yesterday but there is still no new open release in sight. I still believe we will get one one day. 

I guess "late 2022" more translates to "in spring 2023" cause it´s a better date regarding marketing purposes.
AJ gave us the most accurate date he had. Even partners I asked didn´t know more.

But it´s maybe not bad if we try to keep this discussion active so they see that there is some interest. 

Aras released Innovator 25 yesterday but there is still no new open release in sight. I still believe we will get one one day. 

I guess "late 2022" more translates to "in spring 2023" cause it´s a better date regarding marketing purposes.
AJ gave us the most accurate date he had. Even partners I asked didn´t know more.

But it´s maybe not bad if we try to keep this discussion active so they see that there is some interest. 

disappointing - but I would assume that they are focused on subscribing customers - and the new SASS offering.  

I believe we need to have a grass-roots customer session at ACE - assuming this happens in 2023.  I used to lead part of the PLM Word user community - now rolled into Siemens.  We used to do customer development projects and support roadmap planning.  

Any interest in this?  

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Hi David,

sound interesting! In general I am happy when PLM community starts to show more activity again. In the past I just saw ACE or similar events as nice option to see some presentations and to exchange with others. But it´s not just that. These kind of events are necessary to keep the momentum - for end users AND vendors. I don´t believe Aras will discontinue the free version. It´s a signature aspect of their software since the beginning. They simply forgot about it cause focus was somewhere else - just as you said.

Innovator 12SP9 is still a solid Innovator version. It contains the most important features and no major bugs (I use 12SP7, I know what I am talking about...). 12SP9 is technically not outdated. But Aras underrates that it looks outdated when the latest version use the number "25".
The main "selling points" for a new version are from my POV not even the new features. Most of the new people who test the software will not even notice them. But they will notice something else: The outdated UI, especially regarding form design and all the other elements that weren´t updated to the new unified styling yet. This is really something that triggers people, even it´s an less important aspect compared to features (especially for a tech nerd like me).
Design is something people see and rate. 12SP9 isn´t old, but it looks old. There are too many elements that give people the feeling they travel back into the year 2000. I personally have no problem with the Innovator 11 vibes, but the first impression people get when using one of the newer Innovator versions is just so much better.

Best regards

Angela