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APPLICATION - PRODUCT ENGINEERING - cannot add new manufacturers

ofersh - Monday, October 14, 2013 10:52 AM:

Hello,

In the TOC - when I right click on manufacturer or manufacturer parts - there is no way to create new field of manufacturers.

what can I do?

Thanks,

Ofer 



DavidSpackman - Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:33 PM:

Hi Ofer,

Have you checked if you are a member of the identity listed in the 'Can Add' relationship in both of these itemtypes?

By default I believe that you must be a must of the component engineering identity.

Let me know if you need further help.

Dave



ofersh - Friday, October 18, 2013 1:04 AM:

Hello Dave,

Thank you very much - it works.

Another Question please:

I am electronic enginneer and kind of newbie in the aras innovator.

I use to use agile PLM software.

I want to use Aras innovator as parts database for Orcad and allegro designs and also version control for those designs

what/where will be the best way way to configure those parts? under parts or under manufacturer parts?

Thank you very much,

Ofer



DavidSpackman - Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:48 PM:

Hi Ofer,

The Part itemtype is more suitable for parts that you / your company controls the design for, i.e. versionable items. By default it is versionable.

The Manufacturer Parts itemtype is more suitable for storing information related to parts that come from external sources. Aras allows you to create a link between a Part and a Manufacturer Part for traceability and reference. By default it is not versionable.

 

As for storing information, I am not too familiar with how Electronic CAD packages handle file storage, For example, if you have a PCB assembly, it may contain a similar product structure

Level 1 Level 2 Name
A1 PCB Assembly
C1 Component 1 i.e. Resistor
C2 Component 2 i.e. Capacitor
C3 Component 3 i.e. PCB (Empty)

If the CAD package stores information at each level of the product structure, then it may be too time consuming for engineers to manually add this information. There are 3rd party vendors that provide connectors between major CAD packages and Aras Innovator. I don't have any experience with them, but maybe somebody else on the forum has.

 

Good luck!



ofersh - Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:26 AM:

Hello,

Thanks for your usefull reply.

I have one more question please:

I want that when I define/add new part then according the part type I will get the suitable parameters.

For example: when I will choose from drop down list resistor i will get the parameters that suite for a resistor ( like resistance, power....),

and if I will select a capacitor I will get the parameters that suite for capacitor (like:capacitance, voltage....)

Is it applicable in aras innovator and if yes how do I do it?

Thanks,

Ofer

 



DavidSpackman - Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:26 PM:

Hi Ofer, 

You can do this a couple of ways.

The first is to use the Class Path field in the properties relationship for an ItemType. There is an example of this in the Just Ask Innovator help file under Innovator Administration/ItemTypes/Class Structure. Ensure you have the 'Show Parameters Tab' set to 'When Populated' or 'Always in the ItemType'

Here is a video from CycleOp with how this can be used. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPt1KuU-s8E

The second method is used by Aras in the document itemtype when change the Type to specification. This is done to allow the properties to be shown on the main form instead of a relationship. It is done via javascript method called Show Class Specific Fields (open the document form, under form event) and you can see how it is implemented and used). Here are some notes I made on this 

  • Add the Property to the ItemType
  • Edit the “Part” Form and add a new field of the appropriate type
    • Set the Name, Label, and Data Source of the field to match your new property.
    • Select the “classSpecificFields_border” field from the list in the top left of the Form editor
    • Under the “Field Physical” tab, check “Visible”
    • Return to your new field and move it under the appeared blue “Properties” label
    • Uncheck “Visible” under the “Field Physical” tab for both your field and the “classSpecificFields_border” field
    • Save, unlock and close the “Part” Form
  • In the Aras Innovator code tree, open “InnovatorClientSolutionsPLMxmlui_resources.xml” in a text editor
  • Add a line to this file (See the Show Class Specific Fields heading) to define your added classification: (This will include the name of the ItemType, for your example “Part_” + Property name)
  • Save and close the “ui_resources.xml” file


ofersh - Friday, March 21, 2014 3:33 AM:

Hello David,

Thank you very much for your advices - they are very usefull.

I have tried and succeded to made the first suggestion that you have suggest me - with the class structure.

But - can you tell me how to generate part number from the parameter as in the link that you have sent me?

Thank you very much,

Ofer



DavidSpackman - Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:28 PM:

Hi Ofer, 

 

It would be done by writing a custom method associated with the part itemtype

I believe it would be a Server Event, maybe OnBeforeAdd

Here are some similar examples that may help

www.aras.comhttp:/.../1700.aspx 

www.aras.comhttp:/.../1860.aspx

 

Let me know if that helps.